TIL that when J.R.R. Tolkien's son Michael signed up for the British army, he listed his father's occupation as "Wizard"

If you couldn't show the world that you are a wizard, you'd at least write about it
He created worlds with words and the power of his mind.
Pretty much spot-on.
So there was an old English/Norse/etc type translation club at Tolkien's university. Members would spend all week translating one sentence and proudly translate it for everyone else. Tolkien would roll in and start translating entire paragraphs if not pages.
Just an embarrassment of translating riches.
He can't be a wizard and have a biological son.... Well not back in the 1920s

Of course a man with a name like Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien Tolkien would be a wizard by occupation.
Edit: Thanks for the Gold. Not sure if this was an original joke, I think I might have seen it somewhere before, but it always gives me a giggle to say it with a Scandinavian accent.
Edit 2: /u/commahoarder found the original, credit where credit's due. https://i.redd.it/u2qwxhcimyg11.jpg
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I think I saw it in a comic somewhere, but I believe his actual name is Jo-Bob Ralph Ralph Tolkien.
How is that credit when the screenshot drops out the actual twitter handle?
I thought the right occupation should be "quendi" or "maia", because he was the recorder of the middle-earth stories
Wouldn’t using one of those be like putting “Occupation: White Guy”?
The maiar were dudes like Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, and Sauron, I thought
Why do they gotta know shit like that? NO ONE EVER DOUBLE CHECKS THAT SHIT.
As someone that has been involved in background checks, yes, they do.
Though to be fair, even though they check that shit, so what... your question still stands. "Why do they gotta know shit like that?"
British army was very class based untill recently, what your father did mattered for whether or not you could be an officer.
Technically if he is a wizard he would belong to the order of Istari who are Maiar (lesser gods) given mortal form by Manwe and thus native to Valinor (the undying lands). Watching over middle earth was just a job.
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what kind of wizard was your father?
"Maia"
alright then keep your secrets
From his early teens, Tolkien invented several languages. Quenya became an important aspect of his middle earth Legendarium. In a letter published in Observer, 1981, Tolkien wrote: The stories were made rather to provide a world for the languages than the reverse. To me name comes first and the story follows.
Many can invent stories, it takes a real wizard to invent languages.
He didn’t just invent a language, he created An entire language family. Quenya is like Latin when Saroun was alive, and showed how the language changed and split as time went on and had multiple languages based on it when the events of the book took place.
Actually creating a language isn't that hard. There's a whole subreddit for it (r/conlangs and r/neography for writing systems). The truly impressive thing with Tolkien was how many languages he made. You can't hold a conversation in most of them but he still planned out their general grammar, phonology etc.
And evolving languages is a very hard and kinda tedious thing to do which also makes it a lot more impressive that he made proto-languages. However making a language is something a lot of people can do and I strongly reccomend that people try to as it's a very fun timesink!
(sorry for any spelling or grammar misstakes. I can't type properly on reddit for some reason).
That article is riddled with error. For instance, Tolkien contracted trench fever, not trench foot, during World War I. The Nazis asked him if he was Jewish, but that was before World War II, not during it. He came to dislike cars, but initially enjoyed owning one in the late '20s and early '30s: his children's story Roverandom dates from that period. (He wasn't a very good driver.) Etc. There are a lot of good articles on Tolkien on the web, but this isn't one of them.
Well, the British army certainly could use a little more diversity -- it's all fighters (and fighter kits like the ranger) and some recon filling the role of thief. True clerics are in short supply, so they make do with tech experts with high "heal" skills (they do have chaplains, but they have eschewed all physical healing spells in favor of providing mental health assistance), and ... finally, one mage.
edit:
"What do you mean the son of a mage isn't always a mage too? Great, just what we needed ... another bard!"
How fucking metal would it have been for swarms of witches and wizards to sweep in on the Nuremberg rallies and start dropping lightning bolts onto Nazis?
Like the army cares if your dad was a virgin into his thirties.
This is the funniest thing in the world to British people.. really, specifically English people. For whatever reason they just cannot get enough of a Wizard gag.
I'm thinking of auditions across England and always always some middle-aged man shows up dressed as a wizard. For reasons only British people understand its the most amusing thing. Then, whenever there is an election every riding seemed to have a man dressed as a wizard running as 'Some Funny Wizard of Something'. Once there was a Dr.Who thing where some were in Dr.Who costumes and most normal dress but for some fucking reason 3 people show up dressed as Wizards - and they really do act like they've stolen the show with this hilarious thing. people react to it, they surround it, they give it some wink and a nod appreciation.
What is that? Can some UK people explain WTF is with that already?
There's quite a strong Shed Culture in England, I think. Americans have basements, English have sheds. It's become something of a trope, a tinkerer or boffin that's at their happiest when they're stuck in a shed with something to work on and a mug of tea.
Wizards are men in sheds with magic powers.
I've dwelt among the brits. Their entire culture is built around wizards. It's funny to say they are old. It's funny to say they are magic. I have been at parties, where brits have held bottles, pencils, thermoses in front of themselves, and called out, "Hey! Look at me! I'm Mr. So-and-so Wizard. I've got such-and-such for a staff." I never saw it fail to get a laugh.
He's not wrong, as a British man I absolutely fucking adore wizards - can't get enough of them. Actually at your mere mention of wizards I dropped on the floor laughing.
Yeah we do love us some good wizard fun here, it’s true. Oh ho ho I’m already chuckling at the thought of it.
I see how it is. Michael can list his father's occupation as a wizard in public and everyone loves it, but when I did it, I was "calling my father a white supremacist" and "ruining Easter, Daniel."
I really need to actually watch the LOTR movies, I just glimpsed when someone else watched or it's been too long to remember
I did this for the first time recently. Promised a friend of mine who is a huge fan we'd marathon them years ago. Fibs (ly went up to Edinburgh to do it.
As a first time viewer and having never read the books, I really really liked them. The cgi and plot really hold up still.
It is the codifer for a lot of high fantasy tropes, and if you don't like that then I imagine you won't like these, but I can really see how they're classics.
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Is it bad that if I read this I'd assume they meant something like grand wizard of the KKK?
Yes, it’s bad and also dumb because of the fact it’s J.R.R. Tolkien who is one of the most famous writers in history and notably not an American. You would literally have to be a fool of a Took to assume that first rather than think someone is referring to a wizard of the magic variety. You don’t have to be a wizard to realize this, but it helps.
The ones in New England at least like me, not the Old England ones, maybe a light dusting or some freezing rain for them.
He used words to create a universe! If that isn't magic, then I'm no Hobbit.
He’s from space. He came here to steal a necklace from a wizard.
That painting was on the cover of my first copy of LotR.... It brings back such nostalgic feelings when I see it each time :))
I watched The Hobbit the other day.
I do not recommend it.
Complete rip-off of Lord of the Rings.
We all think this is really fun and kind of cute, but in reality Michael feared his father's vast powers. Plus, we all know wizards have no sense of right or wrong.
Thankfully we're in an era where drop-down menus can enforce data quality for this type of thing. Though, if you need a new value for occupation feel free to submit a service request and we can vet through our change approval board.
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What a stupid question anyway. My father’s occupation has no bearing on my service in the military and if they are looking for red flags it isn’t likely someone will be honest and say “terrorist” or something similar.
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wow, he was a great artist! i knew he drew really detailed maps and stuff, but i never saw his paintings.
You have to list your parents occupations? Is that part of the reason the class system still lingers?
Interesting note, most people don’t know that C. S. Lewis died on...November 22, 1963. Not in Dallas.
Can't wait for the Tolkien biopic; if you all haven't already, but are fans of Tolkien's books, I can't recommend Peter Jackson's WWI documentary They Shall Not Grow Old highly enough; what he's done to the footage puts you in the trenches in the devastated landscape, and it really puts a lot of Tolkien's material around fellowship against seemingly impossible odds into perspective. It's not for the faint of heart though; I'm pretty stoic and I teared up during a few sections.
"Dad and his friends were discussing whether God was a man, woman, or some of being with both kinds of sex parts. They're wizards; I know it."
Are we sure he didn't put down "writer" in shitty handwriting?
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